Here are a few comments (from Page 6) I didn’t get to respond to:
MOP is dead? Sadly that announcement is not true. If Erwin has repented of his wrong and is willing to make things right, please contact us. Otherwise, there is still a need for Mosaic Of Pain. There was a clarification to the RIP… someone posted “Looks like R.I.P. = REAL INTENSE PAIN”. I couldn’t agree more.
“…ps will you publish this? i wonder”
How many times will this be asked? I wonder. I have chosen to publish almost everything. As painful as this has been at times, 99.9% goes up. Maybe some believe ideas, questions, challenges are not worth much. They are here. I can tell you what doesn’t work all that well… statements without being up to date with this blog. My suggestion, go back and read all of the comments before you make statements OR if you don’t want to read (there is quite a bit) ask questions, questions are good.
“…Pick a new topic, please! I hope you guys aren't going to be this way in heaven. Geesh!”
Ummmm…. New topic??? This is Mosaic Of Pain. What are you expecting? Ok… how about a nice bible study. Check out Ron’s new article ERWIN MCMANUS’S FALSE TEACHINGS - PART 2: “YOU HAVE INCREDIBLE POTENTIAL” Enjoy!
“When you turning the page chris?”
I am turning it... Now. It took me longer than normal because MOP’s payroll department messed up on my paycheck and I refused to turn the page until they paid me. This is the second time so something needed to be done. I had to draw the line somewhere! Also, if mop management doesn't fixthe air conditioning I am going on strike!
“…A serious note to think about is that Erwin and his into the mystic brother "train" pastors. Now that is something to be concerned about.”
Yes… that is very scary. On a similar note, they have over 80 in their “alliance”. Check out their progress and the conditions to being in their alliance:
“…Matt Shriver aka Bibleman”
“…Is there any real purpose to all of this? What can a MOP do to change any of it?”
For the purpose please read the mission statement. Another way to think of MOP is a road sign, a warning sign. As for change, it is already happening. Erwin may not change but people are asking questions and that should lead to clarity which should lead to change. I have personally talked to Mosaic members, “staff” and higher level leaders (paid & unpaid) and have been thanked for my part and encouraged to continue. I never thought we would have that type of support and I for one appreciate it. It does make it easier knowing that some close to the situation are in agreement. I have several friends that are members of the church and we all hope the church makes it through this. Even though these people are in agreement or know something is wrong and are starting to ask questions, they continue to attend the church. I encourage most to stay but encourage them to continue asking questions and study the issues presented. They stay primarily due to relationships. They love their friends and don’t want to lose what they have. This is understandable. I and others are praying for them because this process can be very painful. Questions are dangerous at this church, if you are in disagreement, just try a question or two.
“I read on this blog that someone from another state found this site from a google search of Erwin McManus’s name. He said that he had questions about Erwin McManus and that this site answered some of his questions. Also, there was a woman from Apple Valley said that she and some members of her church had been interested in Mosaic teachings until she found this site. About two months ago I ran into an old friend of mine who said he was looking for a church for his family. I was surprised when he said that an old classmate of his who will remain nameless told him about this site. He ruled out Mosaic to raise his kids and chose another church. This is what is going on here.”
Yes… so true.
Individual’s have gathered due to the fact there is a pattern of abuse, a pattern of pain. Word is getting out. On the average day there are 49 unique readers with a low of 16 and a high of 249. Conservatively I am estimating there are 500 to 600 unique readers a month. Since Feb 18th 07, we have had over 21,523 page views on these comments pages alone. August was the 2nd strongest month as far as the number of page views and unique visitors. The numbers are growing steadily.
My hope is that one day we can put mop to rest. Until then, we continue...