tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.comments2023-03-26T02:30:44.066-07:00Mosaic Of PainCris Aguilarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10950908651660523514noreply@blogger.comBlogger1695125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-83114735510216768482011-12-31T13:48:24.696-08:002011-12-31T13:48:24.696-08:00Hi...
thought this was interesting...
http://w...Hi...<br /><br />thought this was interesting... <br /><br /><br />http://www.mcmanus.la/<br /><br />In a way, Mosaic is saying that Jesus should have stay a carpenter... and focused on making fancy cabinets for the romans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-24285891868651533742011-11-18T04:54:11.438-08:002011-11-18T04:54:11.438-08:00"Step right up folks, I got it all here. Danc..."Step right up folks, I got it all here. Dancers, poets, musicians, jesters and cool $49.00 crew neck t shirts!! Erwin and his brother Alex are cruising down dangerous roads with their mystic ideas. Check out Mc Manus the store! WoW! I pray for you "Cultural Architect".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-69239664502646606832011-09-08T08:27:09.400-07:002011-09-08T08:27:09.400-07:00When you look to man (or your church leadership), ...When you look to man (or your church leadership), you put satan ahead of the Holy Spirit to speak directly to you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-8527918745772030062011-05-23T15:39:26.918-07:002011-05-23T15:39:26.918-07:00When I heard about this group I didn't believ...When I heard about this group I didn't believe it. A group of believers congregating around gossip and negativity in such magnitude couldn't possibly be real. Seeing how dedicated and consumed some of you have been to researching and publicizing the negative sides of Mosaic, is so sad. Mosaic isn't perfect. Erwin isn't perfect. Welcome to humanity. What is true, is something very basic, and that is that Mosaic has fostered a culture of Love; the kind of Love that Jesus lived. Thousands of people around the world can testify to this, myself included. Mosaic may not be your 'flavor', and it appears that you have been hurt by some things in the past, but I pray for the release of your hurt and pain and for true forgiveness so that you may experience the purpose and fulfillment that was intended for you when you were created. 70x7, right? I thank God every day for that kind of forgiveness.<br /><br />When you are tempted to hold tight to your negativity, remember what Jesus himself said to those trying condemn a sinner. "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-44527281203947702852011-01-01T08:53:20.596-08:002011-01-01T08:53:20.596-08:00So who was the elder who wanted to keep accountabi...So who was the elder who wanted to keep accountability?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-34160270579031770072010-12-30T20:11:27.671-08:002010-12-30T20:11:27.671-08:00Things are looking pretty bleak for Mosaic.
A few...Things are looking pretty bleak for Mosaic.<br /><br />A few weeks ago the elders (with one exception) voted to dissolve the Board of Elders of Mosaic.<br /><br />So much for accountability.<br /><br />Now with Eric Bryant gone, who is going to take over the leadership of Erwin's non-profit organization "Awaken Humanity?" What about the others, "Awaken", "Awaken International" and "Awaken Center for Creativity?" Are these three orphaned organizations finally going to be legally dissolved or will they continue to languish in legal limbo?Yvonne W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17186217915404520787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-35144235969033343102010-12-28T23:53:42.543-08:002010-12-28T23:53:42.543-08:00So Eric is leaving Mosaic, well we're going to...So Eric is leaving Mosaic, well we're going to miss him. He was a big contributor to this site. Reading his blog you get the sense that he's still a company man. Poor kid. ”Not every dream is from God, but if you don’t have a dream you aren’t listening to God..."quote from Erwin's sermpn from Sunday. It makes you grateful for not being part of Mosaic and not being part of his staff. MHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-17060460285015344122010-09-03T13:11:46.784-07:002010-09-03T13:11:46.784-07:00Wow, what a hilarious AND devastating critique of ...Wow, what a hilarious AND devastating critique of "contermporvent" churches! <br /><br />Thank you North Point Media, you really hit the nail on the head with this one.Yvonne W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17186217915404520787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-64518899867317630422010-09-02T13:46:18.661-07:002010-09-02T13:46:18.661-07:00------ Admin Note -----
I am turning the page. Yo...------ Admin Note -----<br /><br />I am turning the page. You can find that page by clicking the link below: <br /><br />MOP Comments (Pg 14)<br /><br /><a href="http://mosaicofpaincontinues.blogspot.com/2010/09/its-kinda-like-this-pg-14.html" rel="nofollow">MOP Comments (Pg 14)</a><br>Cris Aguilarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10950908651660523514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-64351113363418611922010-09-02T01:06:41.190-07:002010-09-02T01:06:41.190-07:00http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7052295http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7052295Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06856857883609217093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-77149277814556582372010-09-02T01:05:42.866-07:002010-09-02T01:05:42.866-07:00http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7052295http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7052295Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06856857883609217093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-28741954260767307322009-08-19T14:49:52.161-07:002009-08-19T14:49:52.161-07:00Let me start with a disclaimer: I have been living...Let me start with a disclaimer: I have been living out of state for years, now, and have not been a member of Mosaic for a long time.<br /><br />Having said that, I am saddened by the general bitterness and wrath that people seem to be holding on to in this blog. Mosaic was my home church for many years, and I was part of a church plant in Pasadena that horribly disillusioned me. The experience lead to my mistrust in church leadership and ultimately distanced me from the church. However, I blame NO ONE for that circumstance. Each person who I felt "failed me" in the process was truely doing what he/she felt was the right thing to do. It is so hard to live up to the standards we hold our pastors to. Perfection is an unfair expectation. Pastors are not God. They are not perfect counselors - sometimes they don't know what to say, they handle things badly, or they simply mess up in a situation.<br /><br />God has not put you in the hands of your pastor. What I read here is so similar to the attitudes that still make me leary of the church. I find it ironic. Complaints and rants of the shortcomings of church leaders (which mainly include their pointint out your shortcomings). When does it stop?<br /><br />God accepts me. He takes me for who I am - sin and all. He is the most merciful personality that has ever existed. Knowing I am accepted frees me to accept others - even when something they have done hurts or confuses me.<br /><br />I will always love Mosaic. I will always love all of you that I knew when I was a member there - whether you still love Mosaic or not. I was never very close to Pastor Erwin, but he once did something that made me respect him as a human being. Pastor is just one part of a man. I am aware that he is not a social dynamo, just like you are, but I don't think you can expect that from someone whose personality contradicts it.<br /><br />It hurts to read so many people's feelings of anger, regret, and pain that they still hold on to after all this time. That must weight so heavy on you. I hope you can let that go. I hope you can learn to love and forgive these people that you focus on so much, even now that they are out of your lives.<br /><br />Every Christian is my brother. Every member of my family is MY FAMILY. You included. I still miss some of you. I still miss Mosaic.<br /><br />And my heart is breaking for you. It really is. This site makes me so sad. Please forgive them. Please let it all go. Please move on. <br /><br />I don't mean any hurt or disrespect with this post. It's just that so many of us have lost each other over lack of acceptance, and it works both ways. Holding a grudge is not your thing. And, no, someone does not have to ask for your forgiveness to receive it. YOU have to give them the mercy you are given to forgive them, no matter what they've done.<br /><br />I'm here. Still think of all of you often.<br /><br />- Conna DewartConan The Barbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17237122290264763122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-5770710530658695622009-04-21T14:07:00.000-07:002009-04-21T14:07:00.000-07:00Hello all,
Today I came across this Wordpress blo...Hello all,<br /><br />Today I came across this Wordpress blog and felt I had to respond:<br /><br /><B>Exposing the Truth: looking at the self anointed whistle blowers</B>http://exposingthetruth.wordpress.com/2009/02/25/hello-world/#respond<br /><br />Post title: <br />Michael Cordich<br />February 25, 2009 at 10:08 pm <br /><br /><br /><I>Yvonne W. Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.<br />April 21, 2009 at 9:00 pm | Reply<br /><br />Hello tonythetigerz,<br /><br />Please check out my blog, Solid Foods at<br /><br />http://solidfoods.blogspot.com/<br /><br />I think you’ll find that the charges you leveled against Pastor Cordich,<br /><br />“This guy has ALOT to say about a church that he has never been a member of, never attended, nor had any personal contact with the<br />pastor.”<br /><br />. . . do not apply to me.<br /><br />Oh and by the way, Erwin McManus’ church, Mosaic, is a paying member of Crescent Bay West Los Angeles Baptist Association so I don’t see what your point was in mentioning that.<br /><br />http://www.cbwla.com/<br /><br />[See: Church Directory - type in "Mosaic" in the search function:]<br /><br />Both “Mosaic” listings are for Erwin McManus’ church, the address given is for the office space Mosaic rented before moving to the William Carey Institute.<br /><br />Also, Mosaic is still listed among the Southern Baptist Convention churches.<br /><br />http://www.sbc.net/<br /><br />Use “church search” function to find Mosaic. (The zip code is 91104)<br /><br />Yvonne W. </I>I wonder if my comment will be posted?Yvonne W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17186217915404520787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-25573365431180539812009-04-16T15:12:00.000-07:002009-04-16T15:12:00.000-07:00A phoney gold medal?
Please check out my latest p...A phoney gold medal?<br /><br />Please check out my latest post at Solid Foods,<br /><br />http://solidfoods.blogspot.com/2009/04/fools-gold.html<br /><br />Yvonne W.Yvonne W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17186217915404520787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-58664525008674576262009-04-08T17:11:00.000-07:002009-04-08T17:11:00.000-07:00Hello all,Next month, (May, 2009) Willow Creek is ...Hello all,<BR/><BR/>Next month, (May, 2009) Willow Creek is sponsoring a conference in the UK called "Innovate" and Erwin will be one of the key speakers.<BR/>http://www.willowcreek.org.uk/event.php?r=15<BR/><BR/><I>Discovering the right answers starts with asking the right questions. Understanding and applying innovation requires you to put aside the status quo, as you discover, engage, question, and think.</I><BR/><BR/>Notice that Erwin's bio no longer mentions anything about his non-profit "Awaken."<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Yvonne W.Yvonne W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17186217915404520787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-56042525473511251072009-03-11T10:40:00.000-07:002009-03-11T10:40:00.000-07:00Hello All,I have a new post up at Solid Foods abou...Hello All,<BR/><BR/>I have a new post up at Solid Foods about Alex McManus.<BR/><BR/>http://solidfoods.blogspot.com/2009/02/alex-mcmanus.html<BR/><BR/><BR/>Yvonne W.Yvonne W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17186217915404520787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-28942425056959117622009-03-06T11:32:00.000-08:002009-03-06T11:32:00.000-08:00UPDATE ON THE "NEW" NETWORK:The new network mentio...UPDATE ON THE "NEW" NETWORK:<BR/><BR/><BR/>The new network mentioned in . . .<BR/><BR/>R.I.P. EMERGING CHURCH<BR/><BR/>The Out of Ur blog<BR/>Christianity Today <BR/>http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/archives/2008<BR/><BR/>. . . has been using Erwin McManus' Origins website as a homebase.<BR/><BR/>This site has finally "broken silence" and gone interactive:<BR/><BR/>The Origins Project<BR/>http://theoriginsproject.org<BR/><BR/>I left an entry in the "Ask a Question" section.<BR/><BR/>http://theoriginsproject.org/2009/02/26/questions/<BR/><BR/>Yvonne W.Yvonne W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17186217915404520787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-54490558930528967592009-02-28T09:41:00.000-08:002009-02-28T09:41:00.000-08:00thanks for the info. Yvonne.thanks for the info. Yvonne.Matthew 5:24https://www.blogger.com/profile/16935076329121328940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-51989758075788457742009-02-27T17:19:00.000-08:002009-02-27T17:19:00.000-08:00Worth mentioning again . . .Here is the link to th...Worth mentioning again . . .<BR/><BR/>Here is the link to the CE interview with Erwin McManus:<BR/><BR/>http://www.churchexecutive.com/article.asp?IndexID=1108<BR/><BR/>I didn't know until today that there is a comment section. Please check it out for new info.<BR/><BR/>Yvonne W.Yvonne W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17186217915404520787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-6562911461893782722009-02-23T08:47:00.000-08:002009-02-23T08:47:00.000-08:00Hello all,I subscribe to a few blogs and this morn...Hello all,<BR/><BR/>I subscribe to a few blogs and this morning I got an email with the following link to a satirical piece originally posted at a website called, "The Sacred Sandwich."<BR/><BR/>Keep in mind, it is a satirical series of "letters to the editor" on what sort of reader response Paul's letter to the Galatians might receive if it had been written in our times and published in Christianity Today.<BR/><BR/>The Sacred Sandwich<BR/><BR/>http://sacredsandwich.com/archives/2781<BR/><BR/>"If Paul’s Epistle to the Galatians was Published in Christianity Today"<BR/><BR/>Posted on 20 February 2009<BR/><BR/>Yvonne W.Yvonne W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17186217915404520787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-55306450749217578462009-02-20T16:49:00.000-08:002009-02-20T16:49:00.000-08:00Remember the Church Executive interview? The one ...Remember the Church Executive interview? The one where Erwin said the following:<BR/><BR/>"The great challenge for our church was that we said all the right things: We wanted to evangelize, we wanted to reach people for Christ, but we didn’t really do the things that we said we were going to do. There was a great challenge to transition the church back to live up to its values."<BR/><BR/>and...<BR/><BR/>"It was a great church; it was kind of a blue collar family church but it was more known for what it was against — like the movie industry, it was hostile toward people with AIDS, it was hostile towards the gay community. "<BR/><BR/><BR/>Compare this to what Erwin wrote in his book, "An Unstoppable Force" p. 115:<BR/><BR/>"The church I came to in Los Angeles had a sub-metaphor for the church that was rather obvious. The name of the church was The Church on Brady. The name evolved naturally as the founding members invited the community to build a church on a street called Brady. Originally, the name of the church was The First Southern Baptist Church of East Los Angeles. But due to the fact that is was located in a dominantly Catholic community-not exactly in the South-where being a First Baptist Church was not prestigious, they found the name to be a liability. Those with a heart for evangelism instinctively started calling it The Church on Brady. <B>This was a beautiful response born out sensitivity to those without Christ."</B><BR/><BR/>Funny, I thought Erwin said Brady didn't live up to it's values?<BR/><BR/>When I left Brady/Mosaic it was just as wildly enthusiastic about evangelism and sensitive "to those without Christ" as it had always been. <BR/><BR/>Yvonne W.Yvonne W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17186217915404520787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-49999505785715893772009-01-29T13:27:00.000-08:002009-01-29T13:27:00.000-08:00Hhhhmmmm . . . I have no idea who "mcordish", the ...Hhhhmmmm . . . <BR/><BR/><BR/>I have no idea who "mcordish", the author of this new blog, is but he/she has made some very valid points about what's wrong with the teachings of Erwin McManus.<BR/><BR/>This new blog has given me more things to think about.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Yvonne W.Yvonne W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17186217915404520787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-91489888122024863752009-01-28T16:17:00.000-08:002009-01-28T16:17:00.000-08:00Check out this new blog... Mosaic Madness.Check out this new blog... <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://mosaicmadness.wordpress.com/" REL="nofollow">Mosaic Madness</A><BR><BR/><BR/><BR/>.Cris Aguilarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10950908651660523514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-67441160804084480112008-11-17T20:43:00.000-08:002008-11-17T20:43:00.000-08:00From Eric Michael Bryant's blog:http://www.ericbry...From Eric Michael Bryant's blog:<BR/><BR/>http://www.ericbryant.org/2008/11/06/evangelism-innovation-and-the-scriptures/<BR/><BR/><I>Evangelism, Innovation, and the Scriptures<BR/>November 6th, 2008 Eric Bryant Posted in General <BR/><BR/>A new community is forming….<BR/><BR/>There is so much we have yet to determine*, but this will be a community of:<BR/><BR/> - Friends, pioneers, innovators and catalysts who want to dream and work for the Gospel together rather than alone. <BR/>- Leaders, entrepreneurs, pastors, misfits, and artists who share a high view of Scripture and a radical commitment to evangelism while being faithfully committed to what is expressed in the Lausanne Covenant. <BR/>- Missionally-minded people from different backgrounds who use different methods in different cultural contexts but share the same experimental passion and risk-taking heart for serving, loving, and helping people connect to God through Jesus. <BR/><BR/>Go to The Origins Projects website for more details and to sign up.</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>Yvonne W.Yvonne W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17186217915404520787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4816732093186928774.post-4343659926874357112008-11-17T19:53:00.000-08:002008-11-17T19:53:00.000-08:00R.I.P. EMERGING CHURCHThe Out of Ur blog from Chri...R.I.P. EMERGING CHURCH<BR/><BR/>The Out of Ur blog from Christianity Today published an item with the title, "R.I.P. Emerging Church" back in September.<BR/><BR/>http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/archives/2008/09/rip_emerging_ch.html<BR/><BR/><BR/>Isn't it ironic? <BR/><BR/>What's even more ironic is this quote:<BR/><BR/><I>"As the emerging church rides off into the sunset, where does that leave things? Well, news has been leaking about a new network being formed by Dan Kimball, <B>Erwin McManus</B>, and Scot McKnight among others. I understand further meetings will be happening this week to help solidify the group. The still unnamed network has agreed to start with the inclusive but orthodox theological foundation of the Lausanne Covenant, and they intend to emphasize mission and evangelism. They appear to have learned from the emerging church’s mistake—define purpose and doctrine early so your identity doesn’t get hijacked. If they do their work carefully, perhaps the new network can avoid getting "wacked" in every sense of the word."</I> <BR/><BR/><BR/>Yvonne W.Yvonne W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17186217915404520787noreply@blogger.com